Mrs. Grant. Who do you want me to remember?
Mr. Hubert. I don’t know—you see—you must tell me.
Mrs. Grant. Oh, you asked me—listen, I know all the fellows we knew in Chicago and went to school with and grew up with.
Mr. Hubert. Well, perhaps you could name some of them that you remember.
Mrs. Grant. Well, you see, there is a difference of friends and acquaintances. There are people, you knew, that we just knew they existed.
Mr. Hubert. Well, I think what we want to know is the friends, of course, a lot of people you know, but those you would classify as being friends.
Mrs. Grant. Well, he was an admirer of Barney Ross that was a good friend all through the years and Barney fought on the west coast. They were very close. Let’s see—while we were on the west coast we were very friendly with Izzy Kaplan, with Frankie Goldstein—you see, these people all worked in the newspaper—they were all working fellows at that time.
Mr. Hubert. Were they from Chicago originally?
Mrs. Grant. No; we met them out on the west coast soliciting for newspapers. In Chicago I could name hundreds of fellows—I don’t know—Al Kamin, do you know him—is he down on the list? He owned the Marlene Sales Co. at one time and I think that at one time—now, let me tell you the story about him. He and Jack were selling premiums and they went and made a plaque. They invested every dime they could get from my family, which was $1,500—my sister Marion and Earl—and this plaque, now, I don’t know if it was in that year or when it was done, but it was President Roosevelt’s head and they figured for an inducement to give away, that was a giveaway item. It was worth about $1 retail, whoever wanted it, but they were selling merchandise and Al Kamin had a place at 5 North Wabash or 5 South Wabash in Chicago. I don’t know—I was not there at the time, but I do know this plaque thing existed and I know another thing that they went into. You know, there were eight children and anyone who had a buck in the family, they went into a deal where they made something about this size [indicating], and it told about Pearl Harbor. I don’t know if you remember seeing that plaque. They sold quite a bit of them, but to them it was a giveaway. They sold quite a bit of merchandise—to induce these purchasers, they would give them 10 or 15 of them. It was like a certificate that the people shouldn’t forget Pearl Harbor. Now, that could have been—he wasn’t in the war yet, where Earl and Sammy was already in. He went in, I think, the last one. I may be wrong. I have forgotten—I’ll be honest about it, but they were merchandising and this man and he were in business.
Mr. Hubert. Well, then did you move from the west coast back to Chicago prior to Pearl Harbor; you did, did you not?