Mrs. Grant. I wasn’t around Chicago that much in those years—you see—I was here and on the west coast.

Mr. Hubert. In any case, these names don’t ring a bell?

Mrs. Grant. No, sir; I can’t place them at all unless they are mispronounced or misspelled, but Jaffes—I did know.

Mr. Hubert. Did you know any Jaffes who moved from Chicago to Muncie, Ind.?

Mrs. Grant. No; no.

Mr. Hubert. The Jaffes you did know were in an earlier period; is that right?

Mrs. Grant. That’s right.

Mr. Hubert. And as far as you know, they didn’t move to Muncie, Ind.?

Mrs. Grant. In the last 25 years—I can’t place the name close to Jack or me.

Mr. Hubert. What about Paul Labriola [spelling] L-a-b-r-i-o-l-a?