Mr. Ruby. Yes—September 25, yes, I believe I did. I may have seen him at the club one night and then on one occasion, I remember it was the week of Halloween, because the man I was working for went out of town and Jack called me—he called me—I don’t know whether he called me or my wife called me, and wanted me to go to Fort Worth with him to look at this twistboard factory which he was handling as a distributor at that time and I wasn’t too anxious to go, but he insisted and he said maybe if that distributing business went all right, he would like me to become interested in that.

Mr. Hubert. Did you go with him then?

Mr. Ruby. Yes; I did. I had some work but I thought I could make it up either later in the day or the following day—just repairing washing machines. I was working for a man that had three washaterias at the time and I took a ride with him to Fort Worth to see this manufacturing plant.

Mr. Hubert. Did you enter into the venture with Jack?

Mr. Ruby. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know to what extent he did?

Mr. Ruby. No; he told me that he was a distributor for these boards and he was thinking maybe of going into the manufacture of them.

Mr. Hubert. When did he tell you that?

Mr. Ruby. At that time.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know whether your brother Earl had any interest in it?