Mr. Hubert. The bag—with the gun only?

Mr. Paul. The gun.

Mr. Hubert. He would leave the money there and take the bag with the gun, and then carried the gun in that fashion?

Mr. Paul. Yes, many times he would be driving my car, he would leave the bag and the money on the bottom and lock the car.

Mr. Hubert. And the gun would be in there with the bag and the money?

Mr. Paul. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. But you say that there were occasions when he would take the gun alone, leaving the money behind, but the gun not in a holster, but in a bag?

Mr. Paul. But in a bag—so everybody thought he was carrying money.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know if he ever owned a holster?

Mr. Paul. No, sir.