Mr. Hubert. Did you ever see him carry the gun in a pocket or tucked in his waist?
Mr. Paul. No, sir; I never did.
Mr. Hubert. The only time you have ever seen him carry his gun was when he carried it in a bag?
Mr. Paul. In the bag.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know a man by the name of Gruber that lives out in California?
Mr. Paul. Gruber?
Mr. Hubert. Gruber [spelling] G-r-u-b-e-r.
Mr. Paul. That name doesn’t sound familiar to me. I’ll tell you, Jack had a million friends that I would never remember their names anyway. He used to introduce me and the name just flew by.
Mr. Hubert. What about this boy Larry Crafard or Curtis Laverne Crafard, as he was called—do you know anything about him, that young man that was around the club for the last month or so?
Mr. Paul. I think he was cleaning up the place every day and used to sleep there.