Mr. Hubert. Yes.

Mr. Senator. As I say, they weren’t happy with me and I wasn’t happy with them.

First of all, I’ll tell you they had cut down the territory and they were unhappy with the type business I was doing. So, this was a volume house, and the type operation was, I don’t know if I classify, if I tell you $3.75 a dress, I don’t know if it means anything to you or not, but at this price range, at the wholesale price range, you have got to do a volume business to make any money. And through this they weren’t happy. And I wasn’t happy because they had cut my territory down so, so we parted good friends. I wasn’t making any money anyhow over that.

Mr. Hubert. Had you had times with Smoler’s when you had done considerably better?

Mr. Senator. There were times that I did better. I don’t say that I did a fantastic job with them, but I have done a little better than that.

Mr. Hubert. Had you been able to make any savings to carry you forward?

You see, that is what I want to get at. We find when you left Smoler’s, you go to Rhea’s——

Mr. Senator. Excuse me, before I went to Rhea I had other odd jobs you know that were nothing to speak of.

Mr. Hubert. Here is what I want to get at.

Here is a period of 2½ years, you had to have some money to live on or people gave you money or something of that sort. Now tell us about that.