Mr. Hubert. You describe your relationship with Jack up to 2 years ago as casual?
Mr. Senator. Strictly casual, like I’d meet any other friend anywhere else.
Mr. Hubert. It could hardly be called friendship as it ultimately developed, in any case.
Mr. Senator. Yes; I respected him; he respected me. We talked nice.
Mr. Hubert. You did not go to the Vegas very much?
Mr. Senator. No; I didn’t go to the Vegas very much.
Mr. Hubert. At the time you indicated that there was a change in that casual relationship to something else 2 years ago.
Mr. Senator. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Can you tell us what brought that about?
Mr. Senator. Yes. (Brief recess.)