Mr. Griffin. Later meaning——
Mr. Pappas. I am talking about the trial. They had a public relations man. The thought flashed across my mind. But that was during the second time I was in Dallas.
Mr. Griffin. Do you recall your activities at the police department between the time you arrived and about midnight when District Attorney Wade held a press conference down in the assembly room?
Mr. Pappas. Well, I performed the job I was sent there to do—mainly to gather information and to report back to New York on it. I stayed on the third floor hoping to get interviews with people who might have seen the assassination, and I was required by my office to report back immediately, which I did. I went across the street to the White Plaza Hotel, made a phone call.
Mr. Griffin. About what time would that have been? How soon after you arrived?
Mr. Pappas. I would say 45 minutes, and that is only an approximation, because I have not thought about it.
Mr. Griffin. Did you have access to the phones in the police department for communication with New York?
Mr. Pappas. Yes; but not immediately.
Mr. Griffin. When did that come about?
Mr. Pappas. After midnight for me, sometime after midnight, well into the morning, when things had settled down.