Then it was awhile, and he had some other people to talk to. Then I think he had another phone call. Anyway, he was occupied, and Ruby came back. He darted past me again. I was still in this frustrated—this look on my face. He said, “What’s the matter?” I said, “I am trying to get Henry Wade over to the telephone.” He said, “Do you want me to get him?” I said, “Well, if you can, certainly, I can use any help I can get. I don’t know the area.” At least these are the thoughts going through my mind. I don’t know whether I said that to him or not. But I said, “Yes, I would like to have him over here.” And he went around the desk, over to Henry Wade on the telephone. I don’t know what they said to each other, but Ruby pointed over to me, and Henry looked up, and then Ruby came back and he just left. I don’t know whether he said it will be okay, or what, but he just darted out again, out of the enclosure. And in a short while, Henry Wade finished up his telephone conversation and came over to my phone.
Mr. Griffin. Ruby didn’t actually accompany Wade over, then?
Mr. Pappas. No; I don’t think he waited.
Mr. Griffin. Is it that you don’t have any recollection of it, or do you feel certain——
Mr. Pappas. I am sure Henry Wade came over by himself, because Henry was on the phone for several minutes after Ruby spoke to him. I imagine he was wrapping up his conversation before coming over to me.
Mr. Griffin. And then what happened when Wade came over?
Mr. Pappas. I did the interview with him to New York.
Mr. Griffin. Do you still have a copy of that interview?
Mr. Pappas. I don’t think so, because this was not done on my tape recorder, as I said. I think we have a copy of a portion of it, because when it did get up to New York—I don’t know really whether it was used on the air or not. I imagine it was. And when we do use them, we edit them down. So I believe we have all of our tapes from last year. And if it was used, we have it.
Mr. Griffin. What is the telephone number that you called in New York?