Mr. Pappas. MO 1-3621.
Mr. Griffin. Was that a collect call?
Mr. Pappas. It was—I could not tell you, I am not sure. I think it had to be, because I could not call directly from the phone. I would say I assume it was collect. I cannot recall whether I called collect or not.
Mr. Griffin. Do you have a credit card?
Mr. Pappas. No; we reverse the charges usually.
Mr. Griffin. What did you do after you finished the interview with Wade?
Mr. Pappas. Well, then he disappeared and I went out back into the lineup room where the Justice of the Peace Johnston, was holding an interview with other reporters, and he was reading the initial charge, I believe, against Oswald, to us. And I did an interview with him.
Mr. Griffin. Did you see Ruby there at that time?
Mr. Pappas. No.
Mr. Griffin. And then what did you do after that?