Mr. Griffin. What kind of protection was provided for Oswald that you recall in moving him?
Mr. Pappas. He was given a police escort. Whenever they were going to move him, they would have all of the reporters clear a way through the corridor. We were all jammed in, and they cleared a path through the mass of bodies. And then Oswald would be taken out by detectives and uniformed police.
Mr. Griffin. How close could you get to Oswald as he was being moved?
Mr. Pappas. Right next to him.
Mr. Griffin. About what time did you leave the police department on Saturday?
Mr. Pappas. Oh, roughly 9, 9:15 p.m.
Mr. Griffin. By the time you left, had you heard anything about the movement of Lee Oswald the next day?
Mr. Pappas. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. What had you heard?
Mr. Pappas. We had heard just before we were sent home, that he was—that he was not going to be moved that night. We heard that from Chief Curry. He said, and I remember his quote—he said, “We plan to move this man not tonight.”