Mr. McCullough. Not the overcoat: no. Because, as I say, the only time I looked at this clothing really is as I was coming down, and from the top—what I saw actually was a dark outer coat which I assumed was a topcoat. If I said overcoat, I meant a topcoat.
Mr. Griffin. Are you certain in your mind that this man did have a topcoat or outer coat on?
Mr. McCullough. Yes. I paid it no particular heed at the time, though.
Mr. Griffin. Well, again, bearing in mind what I have said, that Ruby is not known by anybody else who believes they saw him on Friday night to have been wearing any sort of an outer coat, would that alter the certainty with which you have identified him here today?
Mr. McCullough. No. Actually, because the identification—what makes me believe that the man I bumped into and talked to at least for a moment was Ruby was his face, not the clothing.
Mr. Pollak. I wonder if we could get a fuller description of the hat he was wearing.
Mr. McCullough. The hat that I have called a porkpie hat is a hat with a flat top rather than with the crease that you usually find in a felt hat. It was made of—well, for want of a better word I will use—a hairy material, rather than the soft felt material.
Mr. Griffin. Is that a characteristic of this man’s clothing that is firmly impressed on your mind as his face?
Mr. McCullough. Yes; yes. Because there, again, as I say, I took a look at him as I was coming down, and the fact that there was no crease, and it was not the usual type of felt hat did stick in my mind, even before I saw his face.
Mr. Griffin. You indicated earlier that the hat that you believed Ruby was wearing when he shot Oswald was a different kind of hat from the one you saw on Friday night.