Mr. Griffin. Did you feel any hostility toward him?
Mrs. Helmick. No, I felt he had it toward me. He made me feel that way.
Mr. Griffin. When did you first begin to get that impression?
Mrs. Helmick. The first day I started working for him.
Mr. Griffin. What time of the day was the conversation on Sunday that you overheard?
Mrs. Helmick. It was before Oswald died. It was about 20 minutes, I guess, after he was shot, because everybody else already knew it, and they was calling Ralph and telling him about it.
As soon as he found out about it, he called Tammi on the telephone, and Tammi came down and they left together.
Mr. Griffin. Was there any indication from Tammi that she had seen Jack the night before?
Mrs. Helmick. I don’t remember. I can’t remember if Ralph had said that “I saw Tammi the day before”, or not, but he told us that, I believe he told us that he saw Jack that night.
Mr. Griffin. I understand that your recollection is that on Sunday he told you that he had seen Jack on Saturday night?