Mr. Griffin. How about the money that was raised by the Jack Ruby Appeal Committee? Did Earl have anything to do with that?

Mr. Rubenstein. Earl.

Mr. Griffin. Did you have anything to do with the raising of funds other than this letter and this advertisement?

Mr. Rubenstein. Nothing outside of these two.

Mr. Griffin. When was the first time that you talked with your brother Jack after the shooting?

Mr. Rubenstein. I think it was down in Dallas. I believe it was down in Dallas when I was down there.

Mr. Griffin. That was December sometime?

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes, sir, either the 22d or the 23d of December is as close as I can get to it.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall seeing him on that occasion?

Mr. Rubenstein. Yes.