Mr. Griffin. Do you recall how long you talked to him?
Mr. Rubenstein. Quite a while. I think I was there with Eva, and who else was down there, Sammy.
Mr. Griffin. Can you tell us what you said to him and what he said?
Mr. Rubenstein. What did we talk about: Something about, this is the gist of it if I can remember right because I walked away thinking about it to myself that he loved the President and something happened to him, that he don’t remember exactly what it was, and all that I remembered is the last time when he was down at the Western Union office when he wired that dancer of his $25 that she needed for room rent and I says, “What else, Jack?” And he said, “That is all I can remember.”
Then he mentioned something about the policemen down in Dallas. He said they lied. He said, “I didn’t say any of those things.”
Mr. Griffin. That would have been after the trial that he mentioned that to you. I am talking about conversations he had before the trial.
Mr. Rubenstein. Oh, that is right, yes.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember that meeting?
Mr. Rubenstein. Well, there wasn’t much to say. First of all they have a little piece of glass that big that you can see him through.
Mr. Griffin. You are indicating about 6 by 6.