Mr. Dowe. That is the first occasion, right.
Mr. Griffin. When you say procuring women——
Mr. Dowe. I mean that he would get you a date with one of his girls in the club, or a girl that he knew or something, and I was told by Chuck Dunnaway that this was a fact, and that it was his understanding that several record promotion men came to town—record promotion men are people who work for recording stations, and it is their job to see that a record is promoted, and see if they can get air place at the radio stations, and these people frequently come to town, and they have very large expense accounts, and this was the reason I was told that he furnished girls sometimes for these people and for other people, different people.
Mr. Griffin. Was there anything said to you which would have led you to believe that Ruby was getting any money off of this?
Mr. Dowe. No; not at all. I hardly remember meeting the man. I only remember about what he looked like, and that his name was Jack Ruby, and that he owned a club downtown. I was pretty much preoccupied in other things at that time, and I just didn’t even—it almost passed me by.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember where you were at the time you first learned that President Kennedy had been shot?
Mr. Dowe. Yes; I was driving down Central Expressway, and I was listening to the radio station. I was about 2 blocks from KLIF, and we had a bulletin on the air that said there was a possibility he may have been shot, and they didn’t know and were checking further reports.
Mr. Griffin. About what time was that?
Mr. Dowe. Shortly after 1 o’clock, as I remember it now. I don’t know exactly what time.
Mr. Griffin. Where did you proceed to after you heard that?