Mr. Griffin. I take it you are not sure whether this was in reference to his Jewishness.
Mr. Hansen. That is what I am trying to get over. I don’t know for sure whether Jack told me what he said. I know he said he called him a queer. Jack told me that out of his own mouth.
I don’t remember whether he said “He called me a Kike queer,” or something like that. He might have said that, or maybe said, “Jew queer.” I don’t recall exactly, but I do remember the queer part of it, and Jack said, “and nobody would talk to me like that.”
Mr. Griffin. Jack seemed to be very concerned that people would think that he was a homosexual?
Mr. Hansen. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Was that your experience with him?
Mr. Hansen. Just like I told this man, he never come out and asked me direct. He kind of fished around.
I said, “Do you want me to tell you what I think is a homosexual” and he said, “I didn’t ask you.” And I said, “Well, you are fishing. If you want to know what I think, I don’t. I still don’t.”
And I wouldn’t say that about anybody I didn’t know. I would have to witness an act or to see it about a man or have somebody I knew who wouldn’t lie one bit have to tell me.
And if he was, which I have no reason to believe he was—I know being a policeman I have come in contact with all kinds that play the female role and the male role. I can show you several of those muscle boys, big and stout and tough, what we classify as masculine type.