I have had ahold of several, and they are hard to get in custody. I have no reason to ever say that about Jack. I have heard it said. I have heard it several times said, but a lot of things are repeated that are not so.
Like I say, at night, I worked that district. I would come by there after everybody is out of his joint, and his front door would be open, and he would be icing out his beer. I would walk up to the door and see if the boy was doing anything and would go in, and several times nobody would be in there with me.
He never made any motion that would be wrong, and as long as I knew him, he never said anything to me that would indicate that in any way, or anyone that I have known that knew him.
Mr. Griffin. What was it that indicated to other people that made other people say this about him?
Mr. Hansen. Well, you asked me why I think somebody said that, is that the question?
Mr. Griffin. Yes.
Mr. Hansen. Jack talked—as long as he lived, he never got away from the Yankee accent. Nothing personal.
Mr. Griffin. I don’t think the Yankees have an accent. It’s the Southerners.
Mr. Hansen. Well, you know what I mean. Jack was kind of a talker and he would be talking to you, and maybe he would stop and wouldn’t say anything for a couple of minutes, and then he would start off and run words, and it was hard to keep up like that. But he talked in a high pitched voice of which a lot of homosexuals also have that tone to their voice.
I think you will agree that you see a lot of people talk like that, but there is indications when you see people talk, and there is no doggone thing—he had that high pitched voice and if he got excited or nervous or something, then that would get worse, that pitch to his voice. He is the kind of fellow if, and of course, policemen are kind of hardhearted—a kid, when I see them hurt, it hurts me, too, but I can pick up a kid and it would hurt, but I wouldn’t cry unless it was my kid. But Ruby was the emotional type of man, and I am satisfied, if he had to do it, I am satisfied he would cry over something like that.