Mr. Hansen. Well, that is just my personal opinion. That is the picture I got of Jack Ruby.
Mr. Griffin. You have known him since 1949?
Mr. Hansen. No. I went to work in 1949. I have known him since—I am not going to say positive. I believe he bought that place about 1950 or 1951, to the best of my knowledge. I don’t remember.
Mr. Griffin. How many times a year would you have seen him since then?
Mr. Hansen. Of—gosh, maybe—it would be hard to say—maybe I would go 2 or 3 months and may not see him, and maybe I would see him 3 or 4 or 5 times a week coming down the street.
Mr. Griffin. Were there times when you would spend as much as an hour with him?
Mr. Hansen. I doubt if there would be that much time. I think about, as long as I have spent with Jack would be—I may have sat and had coffee with him 15 minutes.
I think one day he come over to the Florsheim Shoe Store. I had bought some shoes, I had some made, and they were a width and a half sole, and I was telling how good they felt on my feet. And Jack got to looking at them and said, “They look good. I am going to get a pair.” And he went in and had, I believe, at that time—I don’t know whether they had a manager named Reed there or the man was named Kelly, I forget which was there.
Anyway, Jack went in and they measured him for a pair. He liked the ones I had on. They were dress shoes, and I tried to break them in on the corner.
Mr. Griffin. At the time you visited the Carousel socially, he would come and sit down?