Mr. Bellocchio. Yes; it does.

Mr. Hubert. Now, in the third paragraph it does state that the time was between 1 and 2 o’clock and you have in the last few minutes explained why you believe it was not that time, but rather 4 o’clock, right?

Mr. Bellocchio. That’s correct.

Mr. Hubert. How long did you say you talked with Jack?

Mr. Bellocchio. Ten, fifteen, or twenty minutes.

Mr. Hubert. Was all of that conversation in the presence of Mr. Apple?

Mr. Bellocchio. No.

Mr. Hubert. Was any of it in the presence of Mr. Apple?

Mr. Bellocchio. Yes, some of it; some of it was in the presence of Mr. Apple.

Mr. Hubert. Would you describe then how it was that Mr. Apple was present during some of the conversation but not during other parts of it? In other words, how did you become separated?