Mr. Hubert. People have pointed him out to you?
Mr. Johnston. The night at the Vegas Club, an officer said, “That’s Jack Ruby.” That’s all I can tell you there. Like I said, I’ve never met the man—I had never met the man until Friday night, November 22, or the early morning of November 23.
Mr. Hubert. But he was a character apparently that people would point out to a man of your standing, that is to say, as being a character in the Dallas area?
Mr. Johnston. Yes; this is possible. Like I say, I’m sure that there has been other occasions that I’ve seen the man. I just can’t recall them at this time.
Mr. Hubert. On the 22d or the 23d, at anytime when you did see him, you recognized the face and of course you recognized the name?
Mr. Johnston. No, sir; I didn’t recognize him as such. To clarify that, as stated in the report that I gave to the FBI—this is the card that Mr. Ruby handed to me after Mr. Oswald had been removed from the police detail room. He handed me this card and introduced himself to me as Jack Ruby. He was present in that room the whole time that Oswald was in the detail room, which was the late night of November 22 and the early morning of November 23, from approximately 11:30 p.m. until maybe 12:15 a.m.
Mr. Hubert. Was that in the assembly room?
Mr. Johnston. Yes, sir; in the detail room or the assembly room of the police department.
Mr. Hubert. It is also used as the showup room?
Mr. Johnston. Yes; it’s used as the showup room and the showup screen was right behind where Oswald was standing and Ruby was standing—if this was the actual room, the showup room would be at my back now, which would be the south wall of this room. Oswald was standing in the aisleway here in front of the desk.