Mr. Hubert. Was it unusual that he should be occupying your desk?
Mr. Newnam. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Was there a telephone at your desk?
Mr. Newnam. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Was there a telephone at desk 22, the desk of Mr. Bates, or does that telephone serve both desks?
Mr. Newnam. Both desks—it serves both desks—yes—extension 386.
Mr. Hubert. You have previously designated or stated the names of persons who occupied the various desks which are numbered on Exhibit No. 4 and I would like to ask you now whether at the time you saw Jack Ruby, to wit, 12:40 on November 22, 1963—whether all those people were seated at their desk at that time?
Mr. Newnam. No, sir; they were not.
Mr. Hubert. Would you give us an estimate of who was there and who wasn’t?
Mr. Newnam. Well, this is of course very vague. In our office people are coming and going and each tending to take care of his own routine matters and you just get to where you pay little attention to them.