Mr. Hubert. Specifically, was Mr. Campbell there?

Mr. Newnam. No, sir; Mr. Campbell was not there—he was out of the office.

Mr. Hubert. Was Mr. Jeffery in his office, which has been already identified by you on chart 4?

Mr. Newnam. At that time I didn’t know whether he was or not. There were a number of salesmen in. I think Mr. Allen, Mr. Rea, and Mr. Johnson.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, they weren’t all there?

Mr. Newnam. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert. I gather that only a quarter of them were there?

Mr. Newnam. Yes, this was the lunch hour, and——

Mr. Hubert. And the Presidential parade, too?

Mr. Newnam. Right, and a number of them were over watching the motorcade.