Mr. Hubert. Was Jack Ruby still sitting next to you during the events you are now describing?

Mr. Newnam. During the events I am now describing, Jack was at my desk part of the time and other times we were over at Mr. Jeffery’s office watching what news the television had of the events.

Mr. Hubert. Did you walk over to Mr. Jeffery’s office?

Mr. Newnam. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. With Ruby?

Mr. Newnam. I didn’t walk with him particularly. We just went—when we found out the television was on—we just—with others—we went to the office.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know whether Ruby knew that advertisers were calling in canceling their ads?

Mr. Newnam. He did; yes.

Mr. Hubert. How do you know that?

Mr. Newnam. He so expressed himself.