Mr. Hubert. He so expressed himself on what?

Mr. Newnam. Well, sir, he was standing right next to me when I accepted several calls of this nature.

Mr. Hubert. Standing next to you—where?

Mr. Newnam. The one time he was standing next to me as I was accepting a call in front of desks 3 and 4, the desks of our secretaries. There is an inner-office switchboard which accepts calls for the department, and I was there and I just accepted one call there, and Jack was with me at that time.

Mr. Hubert. Did he say anything to indicate that he was aware that an advertiser was canceling?

Mr. Newnam. He knew they were; yes, sir. This was just in conversation.

Mr. Hubert. Well, are you willing to state that your conversation with others that he could hear was such that it would be understood by anybody that you were accepting the cancellations?

Mr. Newnam. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. At that time had he told you anything about canceling his own ad?

Mr. Newnam. Not at that time; no, sir.