Mr. Saunders. Right.
Mr. Hubert. This is where you were—“Saunders’ position.” How long did you talk to him—about?
Mr. Saunders. Oh, just momentarily; just to speak.
Mr. Hubert. Did you thereafter have any further conversation with him?
Mr. Saunders. No.
Mr. Hubert. Now, you described him as being “shook up and ashen white,” and of course by “ashen white” I think you probably mean pale?
Mr. Saunders. Right.
Mr. Hubert. Were there any other manifestations which led up to what is really an intellectual conclusion of being “shook up”?
Mr. Saunders. Well, Jack is a very nervous individual and always has been. Having called on him in previous years and having known him from a business association over a period of approximately 6 years, you get to know an individual and their reactions to a certain degree. He was virtually speechless, which is quite unusual for Jack Ruby. He usually has a lot to say and will talk to you at very great lengths.
Mr. Hubert. That was immediately after you came in?