Mr. Hubert. When Jack Ruby left that day, when he left the offices?
Mr. Saunders. No, to ascertain a time, I would not try and hazard a guess, because his appearance there at the paper was a very commonplace thing, and to pay any particular attention as to when he comes and goes, we didn’t.
Mr. Hubert. Do you have any independent recollection of having seen him after the first time you saw him when you first came in?
Mr. Saunders. Yes, I’d say I saw him in and about the office for approximately 30 minutes afterward.
Mr. Hubert. You didn’t particularly notice his departure because there was no particular reason why you should?
Mr. Saunders. That’s correct.
Mr. Hubert. But you do think he was there for 30 minutes after you first arrived—and after you first saw him?
Mr. Saunders. Right.
Mr. Hubert. Did you see him talking to Mr. Newnam?
Mr. Saunders. He was over in the area of Mr. Newnam’s desk, where he was normally placing his ads—where he would normally be placing his ads—through Mr. Newnam. In my own recollection as to whether it was Mr. Newnam or another salesman taking care of him at the time, I can’t recall.