Mr. Hubert. Did you go to lunch with Mr. Newnam that day?
Mr. Saunders. No.
Mr. Hubert. Can you tell us, if you know, whether Ruby was still there when the announcement that an officer had been shot, came over the news?
Mr. Saunders. The announcement of an officer having been shot was made at approximately the same time as I entered, that there was conjecture at that time as to whether there was an officer—now, the officer you’re speaking of being Tippit?
Mr. Hubert. Yes.
Mr. Saunders. No, I would say he was not there at that time. There was conjecture that there might have been a Secret Service agent shot along with Kennedy at that time.
Mr. Hubert. That was when you first came in?
Mr. Saunders. That was when I first came in—yes.
Mr. Hubert. But the Tippit matter was considerably later, wasn’t it?
Mr. Saunders. Right—it was considerably later, and to my knowledge Jack Ruby had departed at that time. Now, he might have been in another area of the building, I don’t know.