Mr. Hubert. The Carousel Club?
Mr. Saunders. His Club Carousel, and at the time we were there, again it was very much the red-carpet treatment, wanting to know our opinions on his acts, and apologizing if the emcee had corny jokes, but he was working hard, and he had nothing but good things to say about most people, and the evening we were there there was a customer who had gotten a little out of hand, certainly nothing that you won’t see in any nightclub, and right away Jack Ruby took offense at it and told the person to leave and threw him out.
Mr. Hubert. Did he use force to do so?
Mr. Saunders. No; he just went over and very pointedly told the man “This is not allowed in this club. Will you get up and leave right now—out. We don’t want you around.”
Mr. Hubert. And the man left?
Mr. Saunders. And the man left. As far as seeing him use force, I have never seen him use force. I have heard that he did on occasion use force, however, it was surprising to me because I never thought of Jack Ruby as being one who could physically or being physically capable of using force. However, I was evidently mistaken on that point.
Mr. Hubert. You also mentioned as a characteristic of him that he seemed to have respect for authority?
Mr. Saunders. Well, in the word “authority” is taken possibly out of context I should say—well, it’s almost the name dropping—anyone with any degree of notoriety.
Mr. Hubert. And that would include of course people who had actual authority?
Mr. Saunders. Right.