Mr. Standifer. Not too well, really. Only on a professional matter or business dealings. I never was in his place of business socially. I don’t drink, I don’t dance, and I don’t have any business around his place.

Mr. Hubert. About how many times during the past 13 years do you suppose you met Ruby?

Mr. Standifer. I recall twice in his place of business. Once in the Silver Spur on South Ervay, and once at the Vegas Club on Oaklawn, and maybe 3 or 4 times at the city hall.

Mr. Hubert. The two times that you saw him at the club would have been some years ago?

Mr. Standifer. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Can you fix any point of time for the three or four times that you saw him at the city hall?

Mr. Standifer. The only time that I remember was on the night that the President had been killed. I believe that was on a Friday, was it not?

Mr. Hubert. Yes, sir; the 22d. But you say you did see him at the city hall two or three times other than on that occasion?

Mr. Standifer. Yes, but I have no idea on what dates. He comes down quite often, I understand, visiting officers, and I have seen him just to speak to him or wave at him.

Mr. Hubert. Would you undertake an estimate of the time you saw him last prior to November 22?