Mr. Standifer. I have no idea.

Mr. Hubert. Would it be more than a year?

Mr. Standifer. More than a year. I would say 3 or 4 years.

Mr. Hubert. You state in the document identified as Exhibit No. 1 that Ruby was well known among the police officers.

Mr. Standifer. Yes, that is true.

Mr. Hubert. Would you elaborate on that as to how you know that to be a fact?

Mr. Standifer. By hearing the officers in my division talk, that they had talked to him, and on one occasion prior to the assassination of President Kennedy he was interested in installing a safe, and he had talked to one or two of the officers in our bureau who are familiar with the installation or placement of safes.

He called our office. I am the desk officer. I answered the phone most often. He talked to me asking if I could send a detective to him to show him what would be the best location to install this safe.

Mr. Hubert. When was that telephone conversation?

Mr. Standifer. Oh, that was probably a month before the assassination. I am not real clear on that. I believe he asked for Detective Joe Cody by name, as Joe is familiar with safes.