Mr. Griffin. Do you recall any specific conversations?

Mr. Meyers. No.

Mr. Griffin. Did he actually mention his feelings about being a Jew from time to time in conversations that you had with him?

Mr. Meyers. No, we just didn’t discuss it. There was just nothing to discuss between he and I on this.

You know, something else comes to my mind now. I also—it is so hard for me to separate what actually happened from what I have read. Can I word it this way?

I am reasonably sure that when he talked to me Saturday night he also said something about going to his rabbi or to the synagogue and that he was surprised that there were no special services that day for the memory of the President.

Now, again, I want to emphasize the fact that I am reasonably sure he said this to me because it seems to come into my mind when he was talking about synagogue and services and rabbis and there would have been no occasion for it other than this, at that time of the night.

Mr. Griffin. Could this have been something that you perhaps learned as a result of talking with one of his brothers or sisters?

Mr. Meyers. I don’t know his brothers or sisters. I have never met them.

Mr. Griffin. In the various times that you had seen Jack Ruby, had you ever seen him get in any fight or become violent with people?