Mr. Meyers. No; I have never seen Jack become physically violent. I have seen him verbally bawl out people, but I have never seen him become physically violent.
Mr. Griffin. Has Jack ever talked to you about his associations with underworld characters—hoodlums?
Mr. Meyers. Many times.
Mr. Griffin. What has he told you about it?
Mr. Meyers. Generalities. Typical—nothing specific, just typical of a man who wants to be with the ingroup, if you want to call this the ingroup, just dropping names of so-called important people that he met or had known, or so on and so forth.
Mr. Griffin. Did he ever say anything to you which indicated that he had ever been a part of any criminal organization?
Mr. Meyers. No; not—of course, you get a finer point of what is criminal and what is not. Jack did tell me, in his youth he was, well, the words he used, a hustler around Chicago, trying to make a stray buck on selling scalping tickets for various fights or hockey games or something like this. I don’t know if he was a criminal. I mean, you know what interpretation you want to put——
Mr. Griffin. Well, did you ever get any indications from him that he had ever sold narcotics?
Mr. Meyers. No.
Mr. Griffin. Or that he had ever, himself, been a part of any gambling organization.