I will tell you this. Had I been called—for any reason had I been called to testify at his trial, I would have testified.
Mr. Griffin. Have you ever seen a gun in Jack Ruby’s possession?
Mr. Meyers. You mean in his pocket.
Mr. Griffin. Either in his pocket or——
Mr. Meyers. I have seen a gun in his hands.
Mr. Griffin. On how many different occasions?
Mr. Meyers. One occasion I remember distinctly. I saw on one of my trips to Dallas—I don’t remember which one it was—I stayed with Jack until he closed the club and then we went from there and got his car and went to have some coffee or something, and then we said goodby. He went home and I went home. When he left the club he had a money pouch, I suppose you would call it, and he always kept his car in the garage adjacent to his club. He opened the trunk of his car and opened a little bag that looked to me like a little airplane bag, and he put the pouch in this bag, and a gun.
Now, I am actually trying to remember, although I am almost positive the gun was in the bag. In other words, I don’t think he took the gun out of his pocket and put it in the bag. I think it was in the bag and then I said to him, “Jack, why do you carry that damn thing?” He said, “Well, you never know. You have got money around,” and so forth and so on.
I said, “Well, it is yours. You do what you want to. Include me out.”
I have a very healthy respect and fear for those things.