Now, the gentlemen from the FBI asked me if I knew whether Jack Ruby carried a gun, and the answer I would have to give you is the same I gave them. I don’t know. I don’t know if they were carrying a gun. They had their coats on. Maybe he did have a gun, maybe he didn’t. I would have no way of knowing.

Mr. Griffin. In your conversation with Jack Ruby Thursday night, November 21, at the Dallas Cabana, do you recall an incident in which Jack Ruby was angry at the head waiter?

Mr. Meyers. No; I don’t. I really don’t.

Mr. Griffin. I want to ask you——

Mr. Meyers. That this happened while he was at the table with me?

Mr. Griffin. I don’t know. I am asking you if you recall it?

Mr. Meyers. I don’t recall it. I have no recollection of it.

Mr. Griffin. I am going to ask you if you can identify for us a couple of people—a person by the name of Elsa Hacker?

Mr. Meyers. Yes; how in the hell would she get into this?

Mr. Griffin. Is this a business associate?