Mr. Hubert. How long did your conversation with him last?
Mr. Carlin. I don’t recall—just as quick as I could get off the phone, knowing what it cost.
Mr. Hubert. And it was about these greeting cards and you wanted to be able to sell?
Mr. Carlin. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Did you know him prior to that time?
Mr. Carlin. No; I did not.
Mr. Hubert. You say you had obtained his name and telephone number from someone?
Mr. Carlin. Yes, I’m trying to think where. It seems as though a salesman gave it to me either in one of the stores or possibly the American Greeting Card salesman. I called him a number of times and he might have given it to me.
Mr. Hubert. Where did you call from, do you remember?
Mr. Carlin. You mean—to Nespica?