Mrs. Hubert. Yes—what made you believe that “they” were after you?

Mrs. Carlin. Because I was scared I was going to get killed before I ever got to court.

Mr. Hubert. Who do you think was going to kill you?

Mrs. Carlin. I don’t know exactly who or why. I just felt that I was going to get killed.

Mr. Hubert. Well, who did you mean by “they,” when you said “they” were after you?

Mrs. Carlin. Well, there was a man that was running after me—there was two of them, and I saw some kind of little weapon, it looked like, but I don’t remember very much.

Mr. Hubert. So, when you used the word “they,” you meant those people there who were escaping?

Mrs. Carlin. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. You didn’t have in mind some other group of people who were after you?

Mrs. Carlin. No—well, it all goes back to where I used to work. I had already been threatened by Pat Kirkwood and I didn’t know they were escaping from the jail when I saw them.