Mr. Griffin. Do you recall her talking about her life in Europe where she came from?
Mr. Rubenstein. Yes; I think Warsaw was her main life.
Mr. Griffin. Do you recall how big her family was?
Mr. Rubenstein. No.
Mr. Griffin. Did she have any brothers or sisters who came to this country?
Mr. Rubenstein. One brother, Harry Rutland. He was, he worked for the Union Pacific for many, many years as a boilermaker.
Mr. Griffin. Was Rutland his name?
Mr. Rubenstein. I think it used to be Rutkowsky and he changed it to Rutland, naturally.
Mr. Griffin. Where did he live?
Mr. Rubenstein. Denver.