Mr. Griffin. You know this from your own?
Mr. Rubenstein. From my own fact, and not that he will tell anybody. It came also back to me.
Mr. Griffin. This other people have told you?
Mr. Rubenstein. Other people told me. They said, “Your brother is terrific. He just goes in there and breaks up the joint.” He just couldn’t tolerate those guys. Nobody would dare mention the word “Jew” in a derogatory form to him because he would be knocked flat in 2 minutes. That is the kind of a guy he was, hasty, quick, and he was agile, he is built good, he never drank or smoked, and he took care of himself. And I admire him for it and I love him for it.
Mr. Griffin. Did he ever put this strength and physical ability to use in any sort of a job? For example, did he ever act as a bouncer any place?
Mr. Rubenstein. He never liked to show off. He is not that kind of a loud mouth braggadocio, he never went in for that stuff. He hung around Barney Ross all his life. He liked Barney Ross. Everybody liked Barney Ross.
Mr. Griffin. Were you one of Barney Ross’ followers?
Mr. Rubenstein. Naturally when you live on the west side you have got to be a follower.
Mr. Griffin. I mean did you hang around him?
Mr. Rubenstein. No; he was Jack’s age. I knew Barney through Jack, you know, met him.