Mr. Knight. Well, as I say, this was 1:45 approximately, it could have been 1:50. We had—or 1:45 I’ll say. We had a newscast at 1:50. Actually on the hour at 2 o’clock. So I guess about 10 minutes before the newscast. And I went on the newscast. Not with the tape I did over at the courthouse with Mr. Wade, but I went on with my reactions to the interview with Wade.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember mentioning Ruby’s name in that newscast?
Mr. Knight. Yes; and I said, “Through a tip from a local nightclub owner I asked Mr. Wade the question of Oswald’s insanity.” And that’s the way I had phrased it. I didn’t mention his name on the newscast.
Mr. Griffin. How long did you remain at the studio after the newscast?
Mr. Knight. Okay. The newscast lasted 5 minutes, maybe a little longer, and we stayed around and talked for I guess 10, 15 minutes. And some time in this period this Pappas showed up at the station and asked if he could use our facilities and call New York City.
Mr. Griffin. Was Ruby there when Pappas arrived?
Mr. Knight. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. Do you have any recollection whether Pappas arrived before your newscast or after your newscast?
Mr. Knight. It was after the newscast. In fact, I think—again this is all so hazy—I started out when Pappas was coming up the stairs, and he asked if he could use the facilities, and where could he get a phone. Since he was a fellow newsman, I pointed out the phone where he could use it and walked out. Ruby, of course, was still around.
Mr. Griffin. Did Pappas come back in and talk with you later?