Mr. Knight. No; again, Pappas ate one of Ruby’s sandwiches and drank one of his soft drinks.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember discussing Pappas’ radio market, the advertising market in New York?

Mr. Knight. I don’t think I did. I maybe asked him how he was doing and how a certain personality, Pete Myers, was doing, that worked for NEW, New York City rather, and that. I don’t think I discussed advertising.

Mr. Griffin. Did you get any indication that Pappas recognized Ruby at that time or that Ruby recognized Pappas?

Mr. Knight. No; as far as I know they were complete strangers.

Mr. Griffin. Did they talk? Was Ruby present during your conversation with Pappas?

Mr. Knight. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. All right. Did Ruby give Pappas a card for his club at that point?

Mr. Knight. Not at this point, but I think Pappas had a card but he had gotten it earlier.

Mr. Griffin. What makes you say that you think that happened?