Mr. Knight. Well, I don’t remember Ruby giving him a card actually up there.
Mr. Griffin. But you learned somewhere along the line that Pappas did have a card?
Mr. Knight. Yes; I vaguely remember Pappas having the card.
Mr. Griffin. I am really trying to again probe your recollection as to whether you actually have a recollection that the card was made known to you at that time, that Pappas had a card, or whether you subsequently learned that Pappas got a card and sort of inferred it was earlier?
Mr. Knight. I think that Pappas mentioned that he had gotten the card earlier in the day. Maybe Ruby at the time offered him one but I don’t, that’s still hazy.
Mr. Griffin. All right. Did Ruby at the time he was up there at the radio station do anything which to you would indicate that he was trying to promote his clubs at that time?
Mr. Knight. No.
Mr. Griffin. Was there any pushing in that area?
Mr. Knight. No; a comment since you made that. I guess in my subconscious I didn’t think of that because he had always pushed before, but this seemed to be a complete—no talk about his business at all. In fact I didn’t even know, he didn’t even tell me that he had closed the clubs. He might have but I don’t remember.
Mr. Griffin. Do you remember any conversation that he might have had concerning the Bernard Weissman ad which appeared in the Dallas Morning News on the 22d of November? Do you know what ad I am talking about?