Mr. Griffin. Can you give us a general idea of the area that you travel in?
Mr. Rubenstein. Sure. Now, I cover Michigan. I have covered Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Kentucky, and Tennessee. With different firms but related to the same field.
Mr. Griffin. How long have you been covering Michigan?
Mr. Rubenstein. 11, 12 years.
Mr. Griffin. You said now you cover Michigan. I take it at the present time——
Mr. Rubenstein. This is a new firm I am with.
Mr. Griffin. At the present time you don’t cover any State other than Michigan?
Mr. Rubenstein. No; except this. In 1963 the firm I was with in New York, the Lewis Ribbon Co., merged with the International Artware Co. of Cleveland, so I had to go in business for myself. So, I still cover the same territory for myself as I did with Lewis Ribbon Co. in 1963. So I had a lot of money outstanding so I am trying to pick that up little by little as I am traveling through Illinois and eventually will travel through Wisconsin to pick up money I have coming from merchandise I have sold.
Mr. Griffin. When did you leave the Lewis Ribbon Co.?
Mr. Rubenstein. 1963; January 1st.