Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, after I got out of the service, that is when I got into the argument with Lawson, and then I believe Phil Jasser had, he had mentioned, I think on one or two occasions had said something about they had more or less after I had been in the service, they had more or less shied away from me.

Mr. Griffin. When did you first come to think that these men were Communists?

Mr. Fehrenbach. That was in either the latter part of 1946 or the early part of 1947.

Mr. Griffin. Well now, before this you indicated that one of them had asked you to join the Communist Party?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, you mean when I knew all of these men belonged to the Communist Party?

Mr. Griffin. No; when did you know that any one of them——

Mr. Fehrenbach. That would have been in 1942 that was shortly after I went to work for Sam Jaffe, Phil Jasser spoke to me.

Mr. Griffin. You formed the opinion then that Phil Jasser was a Communist?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes; I did.

Mr. Griffin. Are there any of these men that you have mentioned whom you don’t think were Communists?