Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes. I would say roughly that is about how old she was.

Mr. Griffin. Now, did he have any other children?

Mr. Fehrenbach. That was the only daughter that I knew of living in Muncie at that time. Now, where Rosalyn lived I don’t know. Charlotte was living in Chicago and she was married to Seymour Jasson.

Mr. Griffin. Charlotte was living in Chicago and she was living with Seymour who?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Jasson.

Mr. Griffin. How do you spell that?

Mr. Fehrenbach. J-a-s-s-o-n; I would assume.

Mr. Griffin. Did anybody besides Phil Jasser and Lawson Jaffe ever have any conversations with you about communism?

Mr. Fehrenbach. Herb and Morton Pazol would mention it but they never—I can’t actually say. Their comments would more or less be made to the place where I could hear them but not directed. I don’t believe directly at me but yet it was put in such a way that I would have taken it to have been directed at me.

Mr. Griffin. I take it then that all of the conversations that you had with these men occurred between 1942 and 1944 with the exception of the one conversation you had after you got out of the service?