Mr. Fehrenbach. They would always approach me whenever Sam was not there.
Mr. Griffin. Shop?
Mr. Fehrenbach. When Sam was there nobody said anything about this, concerning this, to me in any way, shape, or form.
Mr. Griffin. Did you have the impression that Sam Jaffe was not in sympathy with these people?
Mr. Fehrenbach. I had the impression that he was not in sympathy or if he was he certainly didn’t want me in there. I can’t say that Sam had anything against me personally because Sam treated me actually in many ways almost like a father. And I thought enough of Sam that I would have done anything for him. But like I say, he did get quite provoked on several occasions when he would come in there and catch them talking with me, especially Phil Jasser.
Mr. Griffin. In the period from 1942 to 1944, did Sam Jaffe have any children who were living in Muncie?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes; and this is where I got mixed up. One of them I couldn’t even remember until Mr. Mullaney, the FBI there, in Oregon, told me her name, that was Rosalyn, I believe, there was the one daughter that I had never really met. Marion was married to Max Pritcher. How you spell Pritcher, I don’t know.
Mr. Griffin. How old was Marion would you guess?
Mr. Fehrenbach. I would say around 28 or 29.
Mr. Griffin. She was about 12 years older than you?