Mr. Fehrenbach. Well, whether they actually came down with them or not I don’t know but I know usually at one time or another during the time they would all seem to be gathering up there in the shop.
Mr. Griffin. And you don’t remember the names of any of the other people?
Mr. Fehrenbach. No, because I was never actually introduced to any of them.
Mr. Griffin. Were you introduced to Jack Rubenstein?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes, I was introduced to Jack Rubenstein, the first time I was introduced to him, I can’t remember, I was working in the shop and they were in the office working, and Sam called me in there and introduced me, and somehow he asked me something about cards but I can’t remember how it was that it came up.
Anyway, an ordinary playing deck of cards, and this Jack Rubenstein was quite adept at playing cards, you could shuffle the deck and hand it to him and he could still give you almost any card he wanted.
There were other things they had done. He and this blonde girl worked together. He would take a piece of paper and write your names, different dates, when you were born, stuff like that, and fold it up in four or five squares and then I would give it to Jack, and he would hold it in his hands and then this other girl would tell me exactly what I put on the paper.
How they done it I don’t know. This was——
Mr. Griffin. You indicated that Jack Rubenstein was in show business?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Yes.