Mr. Griffin. They were criticizing Roosevelt because they didn’t think he knew how effectively to conduct the war, is that correct?
Mr. Fehrenbach. I think this was mainly the drift of it. This is mainly what they was arguing about. But after they went into the other office while they was talking in there there were certainly things that came up about how the administration was being run, and there was, I remember something about some law that they had passed or a resolution or something, that they was all very concerned about, that they was all quite upset about but I can’t recall what it was they was talking about now.
It was something I don’t know now, what it was something Congress passed or what it was, and I don’t know if Jack Rubenstein entered into that conversation or not.
It seemed like I heard his voice once or twice, then like I say I am not sure. There were so many in there I couldn’t know who was talking.
Mr. Griffin. Was Mr. Shuster ever associated with Jack Rubenstein?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Not that I know of. I mean he could have known him and he could have been up there sometime when he was there, I don’t know. There was usually so many in and out that I never really—I couldn’t really say.
Mr. Griffin. Did you ever see Mr. Jasser talk with Jack Rubenstein?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Phil Jasser; yes, many times.
Mr. Griffin. Did you ever see Mr. Standt talk with Mr. Rubenstein?
Mr. Fehrenbach. Morton Standt usually came up. Bill Jasser, after Seymour and them would come in from Chicago, Lawson Jaffe was the first one to come up or usually he would come up with them.