MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Now, very soon Göring began to interfere with your functions, did he not?
SCHACHT: He tried it repeatedly, I believe.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Well, he got away with it too, did he not?
SCHACHT: I do not understand what you mean by “he got away with it.”
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: Well, this American slang is difficult, I admit. I mean he succeeded.
SCHACHT: In July 1937 he had me completely against the wall.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: That started over a proposal that he made or a measure that he took with reference to mining?
SCHACHT: Yes.
MR. JUSTICE JACKSON: He also made a speech to some industrialists, did he not?
SCHACHT: I assume that he made several speeches to industrialists. I do not know to which one you are referring. I presume you mean the speech in December 1936 or so.