THE PRESIDENT: I’ve got my pages wrongly marked somehow. It is all right.

DR. SIEMERS: Please excuse me. That is how the page numbers were given to me.

THE PRESIDENT: It is correct in the other members’ books.

DR. SIEMERS: The torpedo armament of speed boats was not expressly permitted in the Versailles Treaty and for that reason you are accused in this connection. Did this involve only the five speed boats mentioned in this document?

RAEDER: Yes. There were five boats which we had ordered for use as patrol boats in the shipbuilding replacement program and which in themselves had no armament.

DR. SIEMERS: How big were these boats?

RAEDER: Certainly not bigger than 40 tons, probably considerably smaller.

DR. SIEMERS: Were more boats of this type built during the Versailles Treaty?

RAEDER: I cannot say with certainty. In any case, we had no armed boats in addition.

DR. SIEMERS: Yes, excuse me, that is what I mean—more armed boats.